Re: [sig-db] The issue of Whois EXPORT/IMPORT in AS object

[Kuniaki Kondo <kuniaki@bugest.net>]

Hi All,

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> Can you clarify the discussion point?
> show us the comments at the meeting?

  Firstly, there are the minutes of this meeting at 
  http://www.apnic.net/meetings/14/sigs/db/minutes.html#6 .

  This presentation was made based on JPNIC Open Policy Meeting(JPOPM).
  In the JPOPM, Toshio-san mentioned that Import/Export contents of 
  aut-num object included very sensitive information such as a network
  information which includes business information.
  And, many of attendees in that meeting agreed his opinion.
  Therefore, we reached the result what IRs should not disclose
  import/export fields using aut-num object if IRs provides a
  AS number searching service using WHOIS or IRR.
  And also, some people mentioned that aut-num object is IRR object,
  not WHOIS object. If so, IRR object and WHOIS object should be
  separated.

  In the APNIC DB-SIG, I gave the presentation which included
  those contents.

  Well, finally, I summarize some points in below.

    - WE(JPOPM attendees) proposed that IRs should not disclose
      import/export contents using aut-num object.
      -> In discussion of APOPM, when APNIC register aut-num object
         to APNIC Whois system, they do not register import/export
         contents. It is optional field.

    - WE mentioned that aut-num object is a 'IRR' object, not 'whois'
      object. Any IRR object registration is 'OPTIONAL'. The other
      hand, 'whois' object is 'MANDATORY', and it is registered by 
      IRs at first, therefore, 'IRR' object and 'whois' object should
      be separate to two object for avoidance of complications.


Thank you.

> 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > This is Kuniaki/INTEC NetCore.
> > I gave the presentation about export/import field in as object at
> > APNIC Policy Meeting in Kita-Kyusyu.
> > 
> > In that time, I didn't have enough time for discussion, then
> > I said that the discussion will be done on mailing list.
> > 
> > I would like to start the discussion.
> > Fortunately, The proposer of this issue who is Toshio-san already
> > joined this list. It makes us very good discussion, I believe.
> > 
> > Firstly, I put my presentation file at 
> >   http://www.inetcore.com/~kuniaki/docs/Problem_of_ASN_Regist_200209.pdf
> > 
> > Abstract is available at 
> >   http://www.apnic.net/meetings/14/sigs/db/docs/db-abs-toshio-ASNprop.doc
> > 
> > After the DB-SIG Meeting, we had a chance for discussion when we 
> > attended IRR BoF.
> > The minutes of the issue is no available on the APNIC Page. However,
> > it is very significant discussion.
> > 
> > Anyway, we have to have more discussion, and we should clarify how
> > IRs disclose member information such as import/export in AS object.
> > 
> > Please read the document/minutes... and please let us know your
> > useful opinions/suggestions.
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Kuniaki KONDO
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