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[Nro-comments] Comment from JPNIC



Izumi,

Firstly thanks for these comments from JPNIC, and thanks to JPNIC in translating these
documents into Japanese. This is very much appreciated.

I'd like to respond to your queries as follows:

> Who plans and approves the budget for the NRO?

As noted by Frode Greisen of the Board of the RIPE NCC, in a response to
comments from Sabine Jaume:
(http://www.apnic.net/nro-comments/archive/2003/10/msg00009.html)

"The NRO will not have a budget, and there will be no fees
paid to the NRO. All expenditures will be agreed to by the Executive
Council. The Secretariat will track the costs and invoice each RIR as
appropriate.

Just as is the situation today with regards to funds for the ICANN budget
and funds to support ASO and ASO AC activities, the RIRs include these
expenditures in their individual budgets. In regard to the NRO and the new
ASO and and ASO AC we expect the same method of operation. It is expected
that these expenditures will be similar to today's situation."

I would add that Section 13 of the MoU requires all expenses of the NRO be
approved in advance by the RIRs.


> - Is the extent of RIR's support for the NRO activities
> defined in any way?

As noted in Section 2 of the NRO MoU, the NRO is the coordinating
mechanism of the RIRs to act collectively on matters relating to the
interests of the RIRs, as delegated to the NRO by the unanimous written
agreement of the RIRs. In this sense the NRO cannot act in any activity
without the express agreement of all of the RIRs. The NRO will facilitate
the coordination of activities and will be the interface to entities
outside of the RIRs.



> -->If not, it would be desirable to define the scope and limits
> - Would the RIR support for the NRO activities affect APNIC members
> financially or in any other aspects?

In regards to APNIC, or for that matter any of the RIRs, there will be
no noticeable change financially. The noticeable change will be the
smoother coordination of joint RIR projects.



> - We understand that the number council members are elected from the
> community just like the current ASO/AC members. How are the NRO EC
> members chosen?

Initial deliberations within the RIR boards have suggested the appointment
of senior RIR staff to the NRO EC in order to ensure clarity and
consistency of communication between the RIRs and the NRO.



> - The model of NRO EC, a body constituting of the RIR representatives
> approving the global policy seems to have less checks and balances
> than the current structure. Wouldn't this imply the RIRs approving
> its own policy?


As noted by Frode Greisen of the Board of the RIPE NCC, in a response to
comments from Sabine Jaume:
(http://www.apnic.net/nro-comments/archive/2003/10/msg00009.html)

"It is only in the stand-alond scenario after and ICANN failure that the
Executive council would in reality ratify or reject. The sense of the
document is that the Executive council would then act in the role of the
ICANN board as far as address policy ratification is concerned and would
only base its decision on whether due processes were followed or not. In
order to avoid duplication, all the relevant procedures defined in the ASO
MoU and its attachment are not also spelled out in the NRO document.

In the case of rejection, any dissatisfied party could resort to the appeals
process."





> - If NRO EC is independent from ASO/AC, does this imply that ICANN no
> longer has the function of approving the global policy?


The Boards of the RIRs will support the operation of the current ASO MoU,
including the current role of ICANN within the global policy development
process. Therefore, the intention is to suspend the establishment of the
Numbers Council as long as negotiations with ICANN on a new ASO MoU are
ongoing. With the proposed new agreement in force, ICANN will also have
the function to ratify global policy.


Many thanks for your thoughtful questions

Geoff Huston
APNIC EC Member