Re: Re: [hostmaster-staff] member fees question

[John Tran <john@apnic.net>]

Hi Luo and all,


On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, luo yan wrote:

> Hi Son,
> 
> Thank you for your useful information, I think it's reasonable to reclaim the resource from member's upstream ISPs, but I have a little confusion, as our member has signed the routing announcement agreement with its upstream ISPs, maybe it has a valid date, then how we could break their agreement only because they haven't pay the address fees to CNNIC, does NICs have such kind of right? Maybe it is difficult to do this.

I don't think we can ask the upstream to break the contract or requesting them not to route
the resource but we can advise them what we are going to do with the resource. Most of them
know that routing IP address with two organisations using them is not a good idea so they will
stop or force their customer to contact the registry.


Thanks

son
> 
> Your opinion is welcome,thank you!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Luo Yan
> 
> 
> 
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> >Hi Luo,
> >
> >Thank you for sharing this problem with us. APNIC also experience similar problem in the past
> >but recently we have changed the procedure to reclaim the resource. The important difference 
> >between APNIC and CNNIC is we do not allocate any resource unless the organisation has signed 
> >the agreement and pay the appropriate fees.
> >
> >This is the summary of how we try to reclaim the resource:
> >
> >- advise the upstream isps, if the resource is being used, that we will reclaim the resource and 
> >will allocate/assign the resource to new organisation.
> >- remove all relevant database objects for this organisation: person, maintainer, inetnum, autnum,
> >reverse delegation.
> >- put the IP address into a pool for future allocation.
> >
> >We also send a few emails, faxes and letter to organisation concern and warn them about the 
> >action we are going to take in advance before we implement the above procedure.
> >
> >I hope the above information is useful.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >son
> >
> >On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, luo yan wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> CNNIC have a lot of members now, some of them will request for the IP addresses for their network use in the first stage, when they got the allocation, they need to submit the member fee to us. But some small members of us didn't make continous request from CNNIC from then on and won't submit the annual member fees to CNNIC, but it is not easy to reclaim the IP addresses from them as you know .
> >> 
> >> I don't know if APNIC and other NICs has the same problem, I will be appreciated if you could share your experience with us.
> >> 
> >> Thank you!
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> CNNIC 
> >> Luo Yan
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