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Re: [hostmaster-staff] RE: Transfer of membership between APNIC andNIRs ver2
Dear JeWook Yang and all,
Thank you for raising this up. In this special case APNIC also do not charge
for the previous allocation as well, but this address range will contibute to
the total IP address to determine the membership size of NIR. However, I don't
believe many ISP would like to do such as they have to consider about reverse
DNS as well not just Ip address.
Regards
son
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, KRNIC Hostmaster wrote:
> Dear Son and all,
>
> I am JeWook Yang from KRNIC IP dempartment.
>
> I assume that most of the procedures are reasonable.
> But what if quite an awkward but possible case like below happens?
>
> Let's imagine.
>
> First, if an ISP with an NIR memership joins APNIC and starts receiving all
> the services from APNIC,
> the address space of the ISP will be transferred from the NIR to APNIC and
> the NIR will receive an allocation of address space from APNIC
> which is equal in size to the transferred address sapce WITHOUT any extra
> per-address fee.
>
> Some time later if the above ISP wants to return to the NIR membership,
> giving up the APNIC one,
> the ISP's address space holdings which are allocated from APNIC will be
> transfered to the NIR.
>
> In that case, the NIR will get an additional address space without paying
> due to the return of the ISP.
> I mean both the first address space which was allocated to the NIR when the
> ISP transferred its mebership to APNIC
> and the second address space which was transferred to the NIR when the ISP
> returned to the NIR membership are totally free.
>
> Is that occasion ok?
>
> Your opinions, please.
>
> Best regards,
>
> JeWook Yang
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net
> > [mailto:owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net]On Behalf Of John Tran
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:27 PM
> > To: nir-discuss@apnic.net
> > Subject: Transfer of membership between APNIC and NIRs ver2
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here is the new version of the procedure for transfering
> > resources (membership)
> > between APNIC and NIRs. If you have comments or suggestions for
> > improvement
> > please let us know.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Son
> >
> > *****************************************************
> > Part 1
> >
> > In the case of an ISP which transfers membership from APNIC to an NIR,
> > the following conditions should apply:
> >
> > 1. APNIC should freely allow member ISPs to join NIRs in their country
> > and to receive all address registry services from the NIR (including
> > resource allocation and registration), wherever this is preferred.
> >
> > 2. In these cases, management responsibility for the ISP's address space
> > and registration records will be transferred from APNIC to the NIR. The
> > ISP will no longer receive any service from APNIC in relation to the
> > address space received from APNIC.
> > (this will only apply if an isp wish to has only membership with
> > NIR. An ISP
> > can has membership with both NIR and APNIC. For example an isp
> > can maintain
> > existing membership with APNIC for using IP address that they
> > already have
> > and become an NIR member for all new Ip address which they will
> > need in the
> > future. It should be note that an organisation should obtain
> > resources from
> > only one source)
> >
> >
> > 3. The existing address space holdings of the ISP will be transferred to
> > the NIR's management(if and only if APNIC membership is ceased), and this
> > address space therefore contribute to the assessment of the NIR's
> > membership
> > category in the next membership renewal.
> >
> > 4. APNIC will impose no per-address fee for the transfer, and no further
> > charges on the ISP in relation to Internet resources previously
> > allocated to that ISP.
> >
> >
> > Part 2 - Transfer of Membership from NIR to APNIC
> >
> > In the case of an ISP which transfers membership from an NIR to APNIC
> > and to receive services from APNIC, the following conditions should
> > apply:
> >
> > 1. NIRs should freely allow member ISPs to join APNIC and to receive all
> > address registry services from APNIC (including resource allocation and
> > registration), wherever this is preferred.
> >
> > 2. Management responsibility for the ISP's address space and
> > registration records will be transferred from the NIR to APNIC. The ISP
> > will no longer receive any service from the NIR in relation to the
> > address space received from the NIR.
> >
> > ( the same procedure as in part 1 point 2 also applies here).
> >
> > 3.The ISP will become an APNIC member and the APNIC membership
> > tier will be
> > assessed in the next membership renewal on the basis of all address space
> > managed by APNIC, that is, including both the transferred address
> > space, and
> > any address space received from APNIC.
> >
> > 4. The NIR will receive an allocation of address space from APNIC which
> > is equal in size to the transferred address space, and no per-address
> > fees will be charged. The address space will be allocated at the time
> > of the next NIR request to APNIC, and must be justified by the NIR in
> > the normal way.
> >
> > 5. The NIR should impose no further charges on the ISP in relation to
> > Internet resources previously allocated to that ISP.
> >
> > Note: An organisation can be a member of both NIR and APNIC but can only
> > obtain resource services from one source.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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