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RE: A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure
Dear Paul and others,
TWNIC IP department had a discussion on the new member fee proposal earlier.
Generally we think it is necessary to revise the fee structure at this point in order to reflect the change of Internet society.
There were two questions raised during our discussion.
Q1.
Section 3.2 describes the reason of introducing the vsmall membership category.
We think it is a good idea to offer a new member type with reasonable fee structure for lagacy address space holder.
However, we are concerning the increase of gloabal routing table size if a substantial number of small ISPs acquire IP addresses from APNIC instead of from possible upstream ISPs.
Will APNIC approve any new membership applications to this vsmall category?
Q2.
The votes and annual fee for the three new categories are increased by twice or decreased by half based on the existing categories.
But the per address fee for each category does not seem to follow any rule.
We are wondering how these numbers (per address fee) were generated?
Regards,
IP Department
TWNIC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net [mailto:owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net]On Behalf Of Paul Wilson
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:27 PM
To: nir-discuss@apnic.net
Subject: RE: A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure
Dear NIT colleagures and others,
I hope that there can be some discussion of the proposal on this list prior
to the APNIC open policy meeting, or at the NIR meeting prior to the APNIC
member meeting on friday 31 august.
I should mention that there is no change for small, medium or large APNIC
members. For very large members, some would be shifted into the "extra
large" category, with a higher annual fee.
However, for extra large members which are confederations (including NIRs),
the per-address fee is proposed to be lower, which will result in a
substantial savings.
Regards,
Paul Wilson.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net
> [mailto:owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net]On Behalf Of MAEMURA Akinori
> Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2001 5:47 PM
> To: pwilson@apnic.net
> Cc: nir-discuss@apnic.net
> Subject: Re: A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Thank you for this announce while I should have done it.
>
> Everyone,
>
> This proposal will make a significant fee change
> especially for NIRs. Please present your opinions and
> positions to make the proposal better (if needed).
>
> Regards,
> MAEMURA Akinori
>
>
> In message <NDBBKAIDFGPKDNCHEMBMMEEJGEAA.pwilson@apnic.net>
> "RE: A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure"
> ""Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net>" wrote:
>
> :|Dear all,
> :|
> :|A proposal for a revision to the APNIC membership structure will be
> :|discussed in Taipei.
> :|
> :|It is available on the APNIC website, on the draft documents page at
> :|http://www.apnic.net/drafts/
> :|
> :|see: http://www.apnic.net/drafts/proposal-memb-struct.html
> :|
> :|
> :|The proposal introduces 3 new membership categories, for "associate" and
> :|"very small" members, and also for "extra large" members. Note
> that there
> :|is a reduction in confederation per-address fees for the extra large
> :|members, which will compensate for an increased annual fee. Also, the
> :|"associate" category will provide access to APNIC membership for
> :|organisations which hold no IP addresses, including the member
> ISPs of NIRs.
> :|
> :|If you have any comments or questions, please do raise those on
> this list.
> :|
> :|I look forward to seeing you all in Taipei!
> :|
> :|Paul.
> :|
> :|
> :|______________________________________________________________________
> :|Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <pwilson@apnic.net>
> :|http://www.apnic.net ph/fx +61 7 3367 0490/82
> :|
> :|
> :|> -----Original Message-----
> :|> From: owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net
> :|> [mailto:owner-nir-discuss@lists.apnic.net]On Behalf Of MAEMURA Akinori
> :|> Sent: Friday, 3 August 2001 13:30
> :|> To: izumi@nic.ad.jp
> :|> Cc: nir-discuss@apnic.net
> :|> Subject: Re: A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure
> :|>
> :|>
> :|> Izumi,
> :|>
> :|> Sure. I believe this topic is what everyone wants to hear.
> :|>
> :|>
> :|> Everyone,
> :|>
> :|> Please advise the presenter what you want for this
> :|> presentation or simply what you want to know.
> :|>
> :|>
> :|> Regards,
> :|> Akinori
> :|>
> :|> In message <20010802111810M.izumi@nic.ad.jp>
> :|> "A request for presentation:change in JPNIC fee structure"
> :|> "Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp>" wrote:
> :|>
> :|> | Dear all,
> :|> |
> :|> | Hi, this is Izumi from JPNIC.
> :|> |
> :|> | As some of you may already know, JPNIC has seperated domain and IP
> :|> | address fee structure from April 2001. A JPNIC IP Member is now
> :|> | charged for "per assignment request fee" and "annual maintenance fee
> :|> | for allocated block". If there is still room for it, we
> would like to
> :|> | make a presentation at the coming NIR meeting.
> :|> |
> :|> | Maemura-san, would it be possible to give us 10-15 minutes for the
> :|> | presentation?
> :|> |
> :|> | Please let me know if I should provide more information for
> :|> | consideration.
> :|> |
> :|> |
> :|> | Regards,
> :|> |
> :|> | Izumi
> :|>
> :|
>
