Re: [IANAxfer@apnic] Key elements of the transition of IANA stewardship
Please see below.
Thanks and best,
Richard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Conrad [mailto:drc@virtualized.org]
> Sent: jeudi, 11. septembre 2014 20:25
> To: rhill@hill-a.ch
> Cc: ianaxfer@apnic.net
> Subject: Re: [IANAxfer@apnic] Key elements of the transition of IANA
> stewardship
>
SNIP
> > I was referring to what happens at the
> > national level, where there is far less regulation than in the past.
>
>
> I stated:
>
> >>> this is decidedly different to the world in which
> nation-states get together in closed rooms to define treaty
> obligations which member nations can enact via national laws that
> impose or constrain the behaviors of telephony providers.
>
> The fact that some (definitely not all, as I presume you’d agree)
> nations choose not to impose regulation does not alter the model
> in which those nations _can_ regulate as they see fit. My point
> was that this differs radically from the way Internet numbering
> works.
I apologize for not having been clear. At present, I don't know of any
state that imposes regulations on the use of the telephony resources that
are comparable to IP addresses. So that aspect of telephony is, in
practice, rather similar to the way Internet works (except of course that
the equivalent telephony resources are assigned at the national level, not
at the regional level).
Nations can regulate anything as they see fit (unfortunately) so they could
decide to regulate certain aspects of the Internet. And in fact they do,
even if they don't regulate the matters that we are discussing here.
>ICANN and the RIRs cannot compel. At most, they can refuse
> to provide services (which opens the door to others providing the
> same service).
Yes and no. For example, attempts to create new top-level domain names
outside of ICANN have not been commercially successful. And, as John Curran
correctly pointed out, if I were to start an RIR, nobody would pay any
attention to my address assignments.
It is correct to say that there are no regulations that compel use of the
resources assigned by ICANN and the RIRs, but is is also correct to say
that, in practice, there isn't any alternative.
But I think that we are drifting off topic here, because I don't see what
the above has to do with the IANA transition.
>
> Regards,
> -drc
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