[apops] minutes from yesterday's meeting

[Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>]

Please find attached the minutes from yesterday's meeting. I apologise 
about the format - I've tried to convert from M$Word and it may have come 
out a bit garbled on your mail client...

Thanks very much to Gerard Ross of APNIC for taking these minutes.

Following on from the meeting, Hideo Ishii and I have suggested to APNIC 
that APNIC might like to consider forming a special interest group dealing 
with Internet Exchange Points. This would be a useful development for the 
region, allowing a discussion forum for IXP operators and Internet service 
providers.

philip
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12th APNIC Open Policy Meeting, Taipei, Taiwan
BOF: APOPS
Wednesday 29 August, Grand Hotel, Taipei
Draft minutes
Meeting commenced: 18:15
Chair: Philip Smith & Hideo Ishii

The Chair introduced the SIG and explained the agenda.

Presentations

1.      Report from JANOG
Masura Mukai, JANOG

This presentation provided an update on the status and activities of
JANOG, including the formation of the JANOG IPv6 BOF, which deals with
address policy and routing issues.

Questions and discussion
There was a question whether the BOF faces the problem of information
sharing between business competitors. It was noted that sensitive
information such as costs and network topology are not discussed.

2.      Update on peering in Australia
James Spenceley, ComIndico

There was a general update on the number, relative size, and operations
of Exchange Points in Australia.

Questions and discussion
There were general questions only relating to the measurements reported.

3.      Formation of the Public Neutral Internet Exchange Point
Tan Tin Wee, National University of Singapore

This presentation outlines the current formation of the first public
neutral IXP for Singapore, the Singapore Open IXP Project (SOX). This is
a joint project of the National University Singapore and Cisco.

Questions and discussion
It was noted that final approval for this project to proceed is now
granted in principle and that the project will commence very soon. It
was also noted that a business model based on a non-profit basis is now
being prepared.

It was noted that the final engineering details have not yet been
finalised.

It was noted that this project will support both multilateral peering
and bilateral peering. It was stressed that this will be a community
project and that participants will be involved in determining policy. It
was noted that there must be caution shown in terms of how to determine
who can join. It was suggested that this should be determined by a
neutral body, to avoid the appearance of forming a cartel.

It was noted that currently all capacity into the building is provided
by a single provider (OneNet) but that others may be brought on board.

It was noted that there is currently no policy relating to filtering.

4.      Report from JPNAP
Katsuyasu Toyama, Internet Multifeed

This presentation provided an update on the status and activities of
JPNAP, which is a joint project of IIJ and NTT to provide another IXP
for Japan. The presentation also outlined the experimental Photonic IX
project.

Questions and discussion
It was noted that there is currently no plan to interconnect the JPNAP
IXes in Tokyo and Osaka (due to commence later this year).

There was general discussion about physical connectivity issues relating
to the buidling used for JPNAP Tokyo.

5.      Proposal for the formation of a regional IXP for Asia
Pindar Wong, APIA

There was a brief explanation of e-ASEAN and ARIX, regarding the
concepts of interconnecting IXPs in the Asian region
(www.e-aseantf.org).

Questions and discussion
There was a brief discussion of tariffing issues.

It was noted that the e-ASEAN Task Force needs constructive community
input..

Bill Manning, EP.net
A resource kit has been developed for the e-ASEAN task force, which is
also available to the public, for the establishment and operation of
IXPs.


Meeting closed: 19:20
Minuted by: Gerard Ross

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